Why not talk back? I will answer. Your thoughts are welcome and help to shape this site. You can even overwrite the material. Send anything: comments, abuse, rants, photographs, anecdotes, postcards, or even a path with hypertext links like the one on 699 or whatever...Sometimes it takes a little while to appear. Propriety is observed. If you don't want you thoughts to be included just write `private' on the top of your message. There are also other conversations
Despite the available megahertz, my responses tend to be slow and erratic. I find myself giving the screen a quick scan, but to read in depth I need to hold the words in both hands. This may change. I find the technology drawing me to it as irresistibly as an Aborigine to the first railroad tracks.
When I have a chance, I'll send some thoughts on the issues of cultural sensitivity and the ownership of knowledge. I've handled these differently in my own work, primarily when dealing with Navajo and Hopi Indians.
But for the moment, your comment on having to give up endings caught my attention. You tell a story in a new way, relinquishing a degree of control to let a reader set the narrative pace and direction. But the ending is still there, or at least a sense of completion. It's not the same as in a book, nowhere to stamp `The End,' but still you reach a boundary, a point of return.
Current writing is often personal, painfully so. But you've managed to personalize a story in a way that retains its multiple voices - yours (modulated differently as you move from sonnet to monograph), your father's (over the span of half a century), and the various embedded documents and reader's comments. The result isn’t conversational, but composed. Each voice hits a separate note with the layering becoming almost musical.
Good writers can achieve this in print medium also, but here you can invite others to join in. The doctors stuggling through a verse of Waltzing Matilda around the campfire [1/16/33].
And it may be closer to mythical than musical. All I remember from reading Lévi-Strauss is that a myth is not a single story. It consists of all the retellings, the bastardized versions, musings, adumbrations, typos, jumbled memories, and even the anthropological commentary. It’s the whole package. In your website this layering begins to surface, becoming conscious. And the metaphors it uses are no longer passive but wired.
Gregory Bateson, anthropologist and early cybernetic thinker, had a fascination with metaphor. After dinner once, a student pulled his chair closer to him, wanting to know about a strange optical effect produced by a burning candle. Bateson began to explain but stopped short. The scientist in him looked around for a specimen, something to give the idea a physical presence. Finding a candle within reach, he slid it closer to the student.
"Now," he said, "let this represent a candle."
"But how can . . ." the student paused, shaking his head and groaning.
"Has it come to this?"
"This is what it always comes to. There is no reality, you see.
We live in a description, and even the description is metaphorical.
What is real -- a pound of mutton or the lamb of God?"
-- Scott Thybony (sikat@azaccess.com)
For almost a year I've been online but untethered, arriving at `The Flight of the Ducks' by a roundabout way. Entering, I first followed the text and printed out a few journal entries. Only days later, intrigued by your father’s return to the Olgas, did I revisit the site and find the other line -- a haunting trace of memories.
The journal account of the Aboriginal dance gives the story its metaphoric lift, but for me your father’s 1976 return lies at the narrative heart. It contains a strange mixture of wonder and sadness, leading to the summit where he fails to look for the old hill. A memory left dangling. And I don’t think the fear or exhaustion kept him from seeing it, but the shape of the story itself. What he had set in motion needed an open ending, enough space for those ducks to take flight. From within the site, you can take that long gaze.
Scott Thybony (sikat@azaccess.com)
I have read all this today (I'm on screen 57) with much interest and sadness - and the poem about your father which I had not tripped over before, which deeply moved me - while Wik is being debated in the Senate and the Sea of Hands is being erected on the parliament House lawn - over 100,000 hands now I heard. I am sad because I read of the problems of consultation you are having that I also know so well, and which harm the very thing we are trying to cherish, and yet, and yet... I know the real good will and effort that exists in people on both "sides" of the currently increasing gulf between our understandings of our world and place and how we should live our lives to pass on to our children the best world we can and meaningful and valuable advice. I treasure Liam's middle name - Tallis, meaning learned and wise, that 's how I wish to be, that's how I wish my children to be, so that they can understand and make the right decisions when hard decisions need to be made. And the current fear on both sides surrounding the Wik legislation makes me very sad too.
Your award is well deserved, and I am proud to be your friend and a small part of this site.
With love and best wishes for your continuing ventures into this unknown...
Liz (Liz.Dovey@dest.gov.au)
It's looking more impressive, and erudite, every day. And why shouldn't it be? I like the organic nature of the 'thing'. My only trivial comment is the italic font on the feedback/interchange section. In the end I had to drag up the source to be able to read it easily. I don't want to keep changing font sizes just to read something. Any chance of getting rid of the italics? It's also getting to be a pretty hefty file that one.
I'm impressed, not only with the content and nature of the topic, but also with the structure.
David (cunnington@lib.unimelb.edu.au)
I have talked to the Product Manager for Web content. It appears that even though your site is very interesting, it doesn't fall into our direct structures in any way. We are more entertainment oriented - requiring a lot of interaction and end user usability. Sorry to be the bearer of this bad news - I personally really enjoy the site - I've even emailed the url to everyone in the office - however - from a business standpoint it just doesn't fit into our system.
Sorry - but best of luck and congrats on all the success you have had with it.
Regards
Glen Hannon (v-glenha@microsoft.com)
Congratulations..I was pleased and delighted to see your efforts and faith acknowledged and rewarded by Cinemedia last night.
Thank you for your generous comments to Cinemedia and myself...
In writing to Jenifer Hooks and John Smithies to thank them, I noted that you may be not only the first PhD to graduate from AIM but also the first person in Australia to gain your PhD in a program for practitioners in the Screen Arts in Australia.
It would indeed be symbolic if this 'first' went to a practitioner in the most newest of the Screen Arts - Online.
Congratulations - wishing every success in this the final stage of your PhD.
Regards,
John (birdy@rmit.edu.au)
I'm from RMIT Corporate Affairs and preparing a media release on your presentation of the John Bird Award on Monday.
Can you please assist me by answering the following questions for the release:
Answers with the questions - Sat Nov 15
Regards Andrew Yee
It'd be great to include you and the Ducks as an "interview with the artist"
We'd need a photo and small bio as well, to make a feature of it. I've attached an interview of sorts I asked Mike Buckley to write, so you can look at it, get some ideas, agree, disagree, quote etc.
The course is about new media narrative ie. telling stories. It will be predominantly using text based stuff.
Here are some questions to get you going, but they're not in order.(If the lack of order shits you, email me and I'll order them) It's very late and I need to get to bed....... you can also ask your own questions(!). Feel free to have fun with the answers.
Would you be able to have a crack at this and email the answers in a few days? Let me know how you go.
Interview and Replies - Tue Nov 11
Cheers and thanks.
Felix (mrfelix@netspace.net.au)
Nonsense only in that it didn't appear to be what I was looking for when a search engine turned the site up amongst a large number of other Australian History sites, and on first viewing it was less than obvious what the site was about.
Persevered, despite the apparent irrelevance to my task, due to the dark beauty of the rich prose and lilting graphics.
Thanks for a rewarding experience,
Regards, Russell White (brough@ozemail.com.au)
Found it again tonight and persevered (Poetry's for boffins and poofs, I tell my mate John who is definitely one and not the other).
A gem! A wonderful work.
Thank you. Russell White (brough@ozemail.com.au)
Thanks for taking the trouble to reply and I appreciate your comments.
Yes, I remember Quorn in the fifties. Dirt streets, peppercorn trees, long
shop verandas an ice block on Saturday night, riding to school on the back
of a trike with Sandra Snow, getting the ruler across my legs administered
by a one Mrs Lassue, catching frogs in the creek under the railway bridge,
the house being hit by lightning during a storm, the filming of Robbery
Under Arms, my father's 1926 essex, the 4 hour trip to Port Augusta with my
mother to visit the dentist, Pitchi Richi pass, Yakka trees, Salvation
Jane, The Devils Peake, six o'clock closing etc etc. Nothing to do with
ducks! To be truthful, the ducks seem to be incongruous. Perhaps you could
explain.
I can recall seeing a white owl in the Roundhouse one time when my father
took me to see the locomotives being turned round on the turn table. I was
4 or 5.
My father worked in the railways as a boilermaker. One of the original
steam men who rode up on The Ghan in the old days and climbed into hot
boilers to swage up a stay. He was born in Port Broughton and later went to
live in Port Lincoln where he witnessed the last of the great grain ships
coming up the Gulf.
I wasn't alluding to your web site in any way. My comments (out of line
perhaps), were general. I was never a racist. My Mother taught me the
principles of accepting anyone for what they are, irrespective of race
colour or creed. In fact I enjoy differences in culture immensley and think
that it is the spice of life.
Unfortunately, in my travels around the world, one encounters racism or
prejudice in many forms, some of it coming from the ones who would be most
critical over our relations with the aboriginal people. These are the ones
I was referring to.
I have also encountered outright hatred in Australia travelling through
places like Wilcania where I wasn' bothering any one. I dont believe the
aboriginals have a right to expect us to leave the country of our birth
because we invaded it. Nor do I believe they should expect us to continue
to carve it up into further subdivions which we as Australians by
birthright have to seek permission to enter. After all, this was the
essence of aparteid which is a system proven not to work.
When will the Indian Nation right the wrongs of centuries by compensating
for the persecution of their own minorities including the original
aboriginal peoples in their midst? Aren't we sometimes being a little too
soft headed in our dealings and negotiations with the aboriginals over hand
outs and land rights listening to and under pressure from some hypochrites
out there? Or do we really have any choice? What do you think.I have
noticed that a lot of the criticism directed at Australians comes from safe
havens abroad where birth right is taken for granted.
There is a though provoking book which I am reading currently entitled "
The Future Eaters" by Tim Flannery. It discusses the fact that the Maori
people have not been in New Zealand for very long in relative terms.
Perhaps 500 years before the white man.
We are all invaders and future eaters but I think Australians and New
Zealanders by and large (racists excepted) are dealing with the difficult
question of finding better ways to get on with their aboriginal peoples.
Take care and best regards,
John L(jlee@aspects.net)
I was born in quorn in 1949. Since then I have roamed the world. Regarding
aboriginal sensitivities. Don't be too thin skinned. Tell them that those
who were born in Australia and who themselves are the children of
Australians did not choose to be born there. We have crept about with guilt
over the sins of our forebears like no other race in earth because we are
led to believe that we should suffer for the indiscretions of our
ancestors. Enough!
Lets face up to our past and love our aboriginal brothers and sisters and
respect their sensitivities but lets not lose ourselves in stupid
patronising prat which benefits no one.
John (jlee@aspects.net)
In the sixties there were stories printed in the
newspapers about finds in various parts of the north east of our land.
These stories interested me as I had occasion to travel the country to
make a living. The stories mentioned an ancient race that were here long
before the Murrayians, the Carpentarians and the Barrinan.
You refer to Stanley Larnach but, I have not read the man. Sorry
....though i will if given the chance.
The information that i refer too, re negritos in the '30's, was
published by Lloyd O'Niel, for Budget Books in 1979. The information and
photographs were work, over many years, of Dr Robert Tindale.
Acknowledgements are to the South Australian Museum.
Simon, if you have any trouble obtaining more on this subject, I
may be able to lend you the reference i have here. I often wonder why
all references to the Negritos have been dropped from our curricula???
Also look under works by Dr J. B. Birdsell from Harvard U around
1938. Give it a try on the info thru the major libraries ( i suggest) ..
Look forward to your next
missive....Cheers....Barry....(simanono@eia.com.au)
Any help would be appreciated.
Les Carter (LCarter157@aol.com)
Reply Tue Oct 9, 1997
I would like any information on aborigines and their
sacred sites and their lifestyle.
Thank you Kirby Chalmers. (Wizard@instra.com.au)
Reply Tue Oct 9, 1997
I attend Caulfield Grammar School and study the Aboriginal Religion.
Currently my studies are asking students to find out about Aboriginal
Christianity. My teacher has requested that I look on the internet for
web sites, however I am unsure where to look or even begin.
Could you please (if possible) e-mail me some web sites which would hold
the appropriate information. Anything that you have will be greatly
appreciated.
P.S. If possible could you return me e-mail within the next 48 hours as
the information is vital for the work, which is due in this Friday.
Thank you. From Nat. (jaques@mail.austasia.net)
Reply Tue Oct 7, 1997
I was very interested in the first inhabitants of this
land. I read somewhere in the 1960's, about the original inhabitants who
were the Negritos. The remaining Negritos in the world are resident in
the Philipine Islands. I did get further info about them which is
available through normal channels (libraries).
According to previous researchers, the present day aborigine
evolved from the northern hemisphere. You can start with the Ainu, near
Japan, then add different peoples as they were forced south during the
last ice age. They arrived in this land and proceeded to occupy it by
absorbing the Negritos. The last tribe of Negritos were photographed
during the late 1930's. The present day aborigines were the first
immigrants?
Check it all out Simon....very interesting.
Reply Mon Oct 6
Time is not right for me to visit now but my visiting has (I'm sure) not
gone unnoticed and I hope to talk more next week.
Go with the one spirit that leads us all.
Lovingly,
Cissy (star02@flash.net"@flash.net)
how come most of the researchers (sic) nowadays never
mention the negritos and the coming of the people from the northen
hemisphere who committed genocide???
cheers barry gammage....(simanono@eia.com.au)
Have looked at the site and am very impressed with the range and quality of
the work. It has already led me off in some new and interesting
directions, namely the connections between 'memex' and 'memetics'. Groan!!
Look forward to talking with you about the site.
(a.mihaly@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au)
Reply Tue Aug 12, 1997
I sent you mail almost a week ago. One, you haven't noted
it on your web site and Two, I thought you answered all mail within 24
hours. What a load of crap.. Get your act together, coz I was really
relying on you for information. (jaques@mail.austasia.net)
In fact a reply was sent Fri Aug 8
Congratulations. An incredible piece of work. Have not yet the whole
diary yet. The Murch book comes out on November 1, and I am hard at
work. If editor aproves can the pictures of Murch be used as
illustrations for the chapter To the Centre?
RIA (riam@ozemail.com.au)
Thank you for this fascinating insight into the Churingas collected
by your father in 1993 and the diary extracts. WE are reading
'Blinding the Duck' at present. We believe that a friend of ours is
in possession of a churinga stone that was given to her aunt
in the 1930's by aboriginal friends. She is unsure what she
should do with this. Robin has seen the stone and it appears
to have emu tracks and what might be dung or ant nest.
It is very beautiful and gave her no feelings of disturbance.
What do you recommend for the future of this churinga
thank you for your help - anthony and robin (adoig@pac.com.au)
Reply Aug 10, 1997.
We want to find out further information about the churinga stone?
Is this possible without violating tribal law or custom. We are
not of aboringianla decent but are very ntersted in prehistory
and rock art
Anthony and Robin (adoig@pac.com.au)
Reply August 8, 1997.
Any information would be much appreciated. If you do not have any
information directly, could you please recommened some Web sites that I
could search for this information.
Thankyou - Natalie Katers. (jaques@mail.austasia.net)
Reply August 8, 1997.
i will be very glad if you can help me with this. thank you very much.
(E.M.TIGA@bigpond.com)
Reply August 6, 1997.
Please let me know if you would prefer that I did not include a link to
your pages, and I will remove it.
The Flinders Ranges links are at http://dove.mtx.net.au/~rosmci/frld.htm
The Flinders Ranges pages begin at
http://dove.mtx.net.au/~rosmci/ranges.htm
Best wishes, Rosanne McInnes (rosmci@dove.mtx.net.au)
thanks for the reply. re: consultation issue with the Walpiri mob.
sure there are going to be delays and impossibilities but i guess there
are issues of trust and it seems you may have done your dash by going
ahead with your actions. big cultural, historical issues faced here.
just a little question.... have you spent time in a remote or any
Aboriginal community?
I didn't go into the site too much but it seemed subtle and quite
literary? the subtle bits i liked but i do need to spend some time
there....i'm currently a fulltime student and am not online at
home....so access sometimes is sporadic...
and my name....joe malignaggi bye for now (@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU)
At last I have been able to download your Flight of Ducks. Surprised to
see a pix of Murch wearing a pith helmet. Do you have more?
Hope to hear from you. Ria Murch (riam@ozemail.com.au)
We have traveled extensively and always visit sacred sites such as
Glastonbury, Lourdes, Sedona, Mt. Shasta.
Can you please refer us to a good source for information about such sacred
sites (power points, vortexes) on our travels.
Your page is poetic.
Please respond to my email at golwest@ix.netcom.com.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
LeRoy West
Sure, the www should let anyone have access to anything. It's a great
medium to learn. But do you want to add to the problems of our (non
Aboriginal) knowledge, protocol and understanding of Indigenous issues
in Australia?! Should you be surprised that the Walpiri have not
contacted you directly.... hmmm....but then who am I to talk on behalf
of people of this land Australia.
On a different note...a new political party with a notion is telling us
that people who come to Australia should assimilate and adopt the
majority culture of the land....Hmmm....it's a pity this was'nt done over
200 years when it was the custom then (and even now!).
End of my soapbox story thank you for those who stuck around.
ps. Interesting site though, there's been a few resources used.
(josmal@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au)
Reply July 16th 1997.
If you haven't seen it, I can send you a copy of last years CD for
you to get a feel for what we're doing, although we hope to
significantly improve the presentation of the CD this year.
Jillian Wyatt (research_report@rmit.EDU.AU)
Sorry I've been so incommunicado...I've been preparing for the big
presentation which I gave today!! It was very successful (albeit about 10
minutes too long but another member of our group did the same thing so I
wasn't whipped too badly...). The class seemed to really like your sonnet
too! I had to read it :)
We didn't have time left for discussion but after we do, if interesting
questions come up, I'll be sure and let you know.
In the meantime, keep up the good work with the Ducks
Sarah
Curiously, Dave Correll (dcorrell@idl.com.au)
How about you coming to Sedona and staying with us a few days?
The attacted file is a typical scene in this area. Perhaps that will
encourage you to come for a visit. (arnolds4@sedona.net)
We are presently in the education aspects of our lives and would
appreciate a response as soon as possible. Our E-Mail address is
leoarm@smartt.com
All our relations!
Your new friends.
Reply June 17, 1997.
Reply June 17, 1997.
We have been viewing your site. Questions are being asked.
Warlpiri people in Yuendumu seem to think these pictures are well before
our time. A couple of pictures are probably of their ancestors. We want to
know more about the precise time and place these photos took place. Most
seem to be south from here but some could have Warlpiri people in them. We
want to see the diary. Can you send us some details?
In reference to your letter to Wal Saunders - the CLC isnt the only place,
AITSIS not the only experts. "disinterest" seems subjective. Please
explain.
You could have consulted us and and other community groups.Please explain.
In reference to your concern about our response time - we are a community
with many concerns and different cultural values, perhaps our time isn't
avialable right now - this may be an indicatation that you have been
inflexible in your timeline for publishing.
Also you have as yet not responded to our suggestion that the publication's
"restricted" aspect is corrupt.
YOURS SINCERELY
WMA MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE
Reply June 17th 1997.
I am a teacher trying to get information on the history of the
bull-roarer. Whe I pull up your page , information clicks on momentarily
about a bull-roarer and then disappears. Can you direct me on how to
find it? Thanks in advance for your help.
Kathy Kraften (kraften@dzn.com)
People are nitpicking details and forgetting the big picture. The
Governments likes this, because it gives "people" a cause to support. It
stops "people" from seeing what is really happening. For example, Social
workers have essentially built themselves their own industry of providing
support for dependent people. Is this progress?
The overall impression I am getting is that all this "Political
Correctness" is a guise to take attention away from the basic fact that the
freedom of the masses is being taken away. In more and more ways we are
being regulated, protected, monitored, and informed of the rights of others.
It is almost as if the individual doesn't exist, only the group.
Thinking for youself is no longer valued. In the words of one of our
Presidents, "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do
for your country." Noble thoughts, but isn't there a middle ground? If one
cannot help himself first, how can he help others?
So this having been said, it seems Simon that you are not allowed to
state your own thoughts, without first allowing them to be reviewed,
modified, and censored. Your thoughts, right or wrong, politically correct
or not, offensive or not, irresponsible or not, effective or not, are still
your thoughts. Are you no longer allow to express them?
As for making accessable sacred sights and photographs, it seems to me
you went out of your way not to be offensive. You seem to know and respect
the culture of others. Showing your perspective of history is not to be
permitted because you are not "authorized" to do it. Only "Politically
Correct" views are allowed. Mark Euwell (email: nfp)
Working at Yuendumu in Warlpiri Media, we are surprised and shocked to
find this sight without consultation. WMA is the premier interface
between outside media and Warlpiri people, we should haver been
consulted.
The "for aboriginal people" is both ineffective and irresposible. The
accessability of the images of passed away people and sacred sights is
frankly horrific.
You will be hearing from us in the near future.
Tom Kantor, Co-Ordinator
Reply June 3rd 1997.
Our class has been divided into 4 groups for group panel
discussions/presentations and my particular group is to tackle "Memory
Issues Outside the Course." And after doing a bit of browsing on the Web, I
came across the issue of cultury memory and the challenges and issues
surrounding it and the digital era we have come to inhabit. Being a
Communications major as well, information technology and the Internet
interest me very much so I've found a nice intersection of my interests with
this topic. I've read your fabulous essay "Killing the Duck to Keep the
Quack" (love that title!!) and I thought that you would be the perfect
person to talk to in greater depth about this subject and the interesting
issues of memory that come out of it. I don't have any formal questions as
such, but I'll be working on this project the next couple of weeks and if
you are willing, I'd love to talk to you next week sometime as I get deeper
into preparing my presentation. Sarah Hamid (shamid@sfu.ca)
Answers to questions Tue Jun 17
Adam Quinn (dem@dot.net.au)
Reply June 2nd 1997.
Seriously, my Home Page (address below) tells a lot about me. We also
recently came back from 2 1/2 month trip to Australia. We loved it.
Why am I interested?
Loved Australia. In Arizona there are a lot of legends about lost gold
mines. We never actually looked for any of them, but in Bendigo and Arltunga
we got interested in the stories.
By the way, who are you? How did you ever manage to get such an
elaborate site?Arnold Shulman (arnolds4@sedona.net)
Arnold Shulman (arnolds4@sedona.net)
How are Sue, Emily and especially Bonnie? How is she getting on at her
new school? Please pass on my regards to everyone. Hear from you soon.
Jenni Peterson (userid@netspace.net.au).
Simon Stobbart (stubbsy@dragnet.com.au)
One suggestion, the sound file where he reads from homer, can that be more
embedded, possibly provide a few options for this, it just distracted from
the flow a bit, but then that is the medium I suppose. Keep it going.
Steve Black (sblack@enternet.com.au)
Regards Les
(leswalkling@rmit.EDU.AU)
Wayne Anthoney (elizraup@tafe.sa.edu.au)
Can I add you to my list of useful we site?
Larry (northl@s054.aone.net.au)
Lawrence North (northl@s054.aone.net.au)
I'm sorry for my piety english, i hoppe you understand my work.
See you on the net, and may be at Australia in the next olympics games.
Bye Kay, Bruno
I spent a week at Alice Springs in January, travelling by car to the E
& W Macdonnell Ranges and to Uluru, Kata Tjuta, Kings Canyon and a
little community at Lilla. I am also interested in genealogy . I'm a
former teacher of English & History and former A/D Guidance & Special
Education (Currently a District Guidance Officer/school psychologist)
with Dept of Education. Your web page is therefore fascinating to me on
many accounts, including exploring the intricacies of its
construction.It's the most absorbing thing I have found on the web and I
am really enjoying dipping into it.
I still haven't worked out what is going on with the sound - part of the
issue is I guess my impatience- clicking when I can't see anything
happening- but I am also puzzled as to why sometimes I get a window with
a player up but at other times I get a screen I can't access- (maybe I
don't wait long enough - but nothing seems to happen). I can tell you
that the sound quality on the file is much better after I shut the Web
page and just replay the clip -though I don't know why.
If I ever work out how to send pictures with email, I'll send you some
recent photos of the Centre.
Kay (kivan@ozemail.com.au)
Thank you Kay Williams (kivan@ozemail.com.au)
These are also important stories, that need to be told. I disagree with
some federal liberal politicians that say it's time to bury what
happened in the past. And the visual treatment of blur is most
appropriate.
Alan Koeninger (garth@creativeaccess.com.au)
Your Website has been chosen as a 'Cool Site of the month' by Oz Cool,
Australia's longest running monthly Top Ten of cool websites!
(ozcool@bam.com.au)
I wish to thank you for the contribution you have made to my
discipline. The way you have integrated technology with traditional
methodology is nothing less than extraordinary. Flight of Ducks is what
I aspire to.
In addition to the scientific contribution, there is another aspect
of Flight of Ducks, which I appreciate very much. While I am a
scientist, and have great interest in sharing my data with the world, I
am most impressed by the manor in which you honor your father.
Sincerely Justice B. Shannon (Justice_Shannon@otter.monterey.edu)
http://www.anu.edu.au/linguistics/dgn612/
(David.Nash@anu.edu.au)
Mike Roberts (redhawk@ma.ultranet.com)
thanks Sue Sifa (sue.sifa@ceo.adl.catholic.edu.au)
Regards,Ann Smith (rossann@speednet.com.au)
Anybody need a translation?
(Hint: Read MR as exactly that... not Mr.)
> MR DUCKS
--Shirley(pnst@voicenet.com)
Kim McKenzie (kim@aiatsis.gov.au)
I have recently read the novel "Poor fellow my country" and can realise
the injustices bought upon the original inhabitants of this country but
I feel that the present problems are caused by half and quarter caste
people abusing government benefits for political gains.
Desmond Brady (dezbrady@ozemail.com.au)
Dr Hugh Nelson, Chair IM/IT Committee Gold Coast Division of GP.
(hugh.nelson@ausinfo.com.au)
Peter Hopgood. (pmh@itsolutions.com.au)
Regards, Peter Hopgood. (pmh@itsolutions.com.au)
Thanks for coming back....Barry (simanono@eia.com.au)
The SA plant images begin at http://dove.mtx.net.au/~rosmci/saphoto.htm
Robin Granites, Chairperson (tanami@ozemail.com.au)
..with Olgas blue sky and lines of rocks in foreground- after
walking into the Valley of the winds walk and taking the left
hand track, down along the creek bed. There is now a shed with
emergency water tank as you turn to the right & go over a hill to
flank the range. This was taken looking back at the main peak -
I think Mt Olga? (kivan@ozemail.com.au)
"One always one had its brains knocked out"
Nothing of any significance but so difficult to notice yourself.
Hi Kay, i just finish to read your message, i am afraid i not understand
all
the sentences of your answer. Dont wworry, i will go to see my english
cousin,
here in Madrid ( his job is to translate english texts in spanish
language ).
I'm really happy for your interest of my work. And i will appreciate if
you find the way to sendme your photos....
If your are fascinate with aborigens culture,try to find an excellent
book of
Bruce Chatwin called sondlines, this man was (unfortunally he's died on
1989)
appasionate for nomad people, and was convicted the origine of people
wa-ad situations : civillisation was just an accident in primitive irak
country,
in a sedentary period, because bad conditions of live (no food, no
water, not protection against predators).
My theory, is not to refuse our contemporaneous civillisation.
I just try to explainthan today, city was grown, in physical and virtual
(Net,
over media/information, contraction of space by velocity of transport)
situation at the point that the city has no-limits.
With this points, i think, there be a new sort of citizen person : the
nomad-
cityzen. I'm convicted that a pedestrian cityzen make with his own
"walkabout",
the limits of his territory, lake annimals. When hi take (after nearly
300 on foot) a car or public transport to go in another zone (ex : work
zone, school
-zone...) he transport, in his mental conscience of space, the perimeter
of his territory and his typical ways of practices the urban space.
Next monday, i wil go to Venise, the archetypal city of walk ways, to
discover another practices of urban space by tourists, cityzen and
mailman (post officer).
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Have you had any time for the towers?
I spent 12 years doing aboriginal health and aeromedical work in
Central Australia and all my 3 children were born in Alice.
I haven't had time to study FOD, but I will.
I thought I'd let you know about a URL you might appreciate
on http://www.medicineau.net.au which has a link to the culture
training manual for medical workers on remote aboriginal communities.
cheers,