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From: Adam Meigs
Email: johannthecamelroper@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: searching for the iliad read aloud in homeric greek...

Hello,

I'm an American student who is looking for a copy of the Iliad being read aloud in the original Homeric Greek. I would be willing to compensate you for a copy if you have one in the entirety. If you don't have one, a gentle nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Adam Meigs

Reply: Thursday, 18 September 2003 2:48 PM

From: katherine
Email: black_kat@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: hello

hello simon. how are you. i was wondering if u knew about community attitudes to reconciliation during the 1980's? i have not been able to find muchg information on this subject so if you could help that would be great.

thanks kat

Reply: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 9:21 AM

From: Bronte Somerset
Email: bronte.somerset@mq.edu.au
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: Flight of Ducks

Hello Simon,

Thank you for your email.

Apart from enjoying the aesthetics used to portray a cultural heritage, I must admit, I am also interested in this site as I believe it was a part of your doctoral studies. If it was I should tell you I am designing a research project relating to issues on the non-traditional thesis and how IT has impacted on the way research students create and publish.

Would it be possible to communicate with you on this as I want to use Australian examples in my research proposal and discuss the sorts of issues you faced from conception to publication both in practice and theory?

Kind regards,
Bronte

Bronte Somerset
IT Trainer
e.studio & Intranet Coordinator
http://www.lib.mq.edu.au/additional/postgrad/pgestudio.html
(02) 9850 7200
bronte.somerset@mq.edu.au
Level 4, Library, Macquarie University

Reply:

From: Bronte Somerset
Email: bronte.somerset@mq.edu.au
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: Flight of Ducks

Dear Simon,

The imagery and prose of this site is very moving. Congratulations.

Bronte

Bronte Somerset
IT Trainer
e.studio & Intranet Coordinator
http://www.lib.mq.edu.au/additional/postgrad/pgestudio.html
(02) 9850 7200
bronte.somerset@mq.edu.au
Level 4, Library, Macquarie University

Reply: Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:41 AM

From: Shanks, Mark
Email: MShanks@anteon.com
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: concentric circles and holograms

Simon,

Thank you much for the reply. This is just a little side project of mine, but I think it would be fun to pursue. I took a look at the images you supplied and they are very interesting. However, like you noted, none of the circles overlap one another. Intersecting arcs, represent the interference of waves or vibrations, which when illuminated are what form holograms. Concentric circles alone won't produce a holographic image. We might be stretching it a little if we took the image on (http://www.duckdigital.net/FOD/FOD0820.html) and extended the circles outward at the same frequency (or spacing pattern) until they intersected each other and see what comes up. It just seems that there's such an astonishing parallel between aboriginal knowledge of vibrations and the physical world, and what is known today about waves, holograms and information storage, that there seems like there could be something there even if the aborigine people didn't intentionally put it there. Suppose we did find an artifact with concentric intersecting arcs/circles... what would the next step be? I would take a replica of the pattern, and inscribe it on a piece of plexi-glass, and then illuminate it with sunlight. Even a simple 3-D pattern, such as a spiral would be a very interesting find I think.

Thanks a lot for the interest and the help, Happy hunting!

Mark

Mark Shanks
703.271.6735

Reply:

From: Shanks, Mark
Email: MShanks@anteon.com
Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 3:22 AM
Subject: strange request

Simon,

I have a strange request. I've recently been reading up on holograms and they're function in the physical world (see The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot). It is important to note that holograms are a means of storing massive amounts of information on a two-dimensional surface. Further research of will reveal that holograms can be made by hand using very primitive tools and scratching a surface (see http://www.amasci.com/amateur/holo1.html). When viewed without illumination, a hologram will appear to be a design of concentric and intersecting arcs or circles. Immediately puting all this information together, aboriginal art came to mind. With the growing acceptance of the holographic universe and the undeniable similarities between this proposed universe and the aboriginal "dream world", I feel compelled to make ask a strange question. Have you by any chance come accross any aboriginal art, or Cave/Rock art, that depicts intersecting concentric circles similar the picture below?

concentric circles

something similar, not exact. I'm just curious, and thought you may be able to help judging frome your line of work. I know it's a long shot. Thanks for your time.

Mark Shanks
443.739.3210

Reply: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:58 PM

From: Katherine Komorowki
Email: Katkitty03@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 2:21 PM
Subject: Student

Hi my name is Katherine Komorowski and im currently studying a bachelor of Arts (communication). I have this major essay: Question: Using Australian example, discuss the ways in which race or ethnic identity are discursively constructed. Your article is very significant to the topic of what i will be discusing; The aboriginal culture. If you have any information that could help with answering this question further please email me on Katkitty03@hotmail.com as it would be of great help. Thankyou for your time.

Katherine :)

Reply:

From: Peta Libby
Email: libbymob@iinet.net.au
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: FOD

Dear Simon,

Thanks for your e-mail and interest. The story I'm attempting to write is planned to span three novels ranging from 'Dreaming' and Pre-hisrtory through to 'Contemporary-Small-Town-Life' and covers aspects of the wonderful culture we have been priveleged to experience as a family. From our time in Leonora we developed strong and enduring friendships with people (some of whom happen to be aboriginal) and these freindships have given me a range of attitudes and experiences from which to write.Whilst my writing isn't directly about my life or my family's story there are many 'what if' extrapolations, for example what if we had lost our children in the raging flooded creek we stupidly dingied down and capsized in? I try to transfer the emotions and sensations I felt during incidents like this and place them onto my characters.

The first novel is by far the most difficult. My main aim is to set up a framework from which readers can more deeply understand my subsequent novels. I plan to use my understanding of 'Dreaming' to illustrate the way its stories govern relationships to country, relationships to people, lifestyle and map landscape. I also want to illustrate the absense of 'time' in Dreaming and the concept of 'Dreaming', past and present as one. I attempting to use my interest in pre-history to create authenticity in the landscape and its animals and people. I haven't fleshed out the plot too deeply yet. I'm still grappling with issues of cultural sensitivity, what stories I can use and whether I should create my own stories over the landscape I am writing about to overcome any sensitivities. I have a friend, who's 'Country' I am writing about, who has a Masters in Anthropology and has said he will check my work for cultural sensitivity and accuracy.

The second novel is set on the cusp of white-contact and is about a young woman who breaks tribal law and her ensuing journey through her own and unknown country with her children. It documents this young woman's contact with different people and the consequences of these contacts for her. The story covers issues of rebellion against society and family, the journey to find what is right for us as individuals and the journey to understanding of the value of family and society.

The third novel is a story of an Aboriginal boy and non-Aboriginal girl who grow up with an Indigenous 'brother-sister' relationship in a small country town, and the way this relationship changes over time. The two mothers oppose the developing relationship but for different reasons. Tensions build as consequences of this relationship are felt. This story covers issues of cultural tolerance, growth of culture over time and owning/taking responsibility for our mistakes.

At present I have: a beginning for book 1, an aim but no real plot; a detailed plot for book 2, established themes and setting, and several chapters; a basic plot for book 3, established themes and setting, and several chapters; This project will probably take me about five years to complete.

And you did guess correctly. We came back to Perth for our two rapidly-growing girls, so they could meet a group of friends to go off to highschool with. John and I are both geologists and so we do get out bush through work. Family holidays tend to be in places far removed from large towns. This helps temper our 'isolation' in the city which we are gradually reacclimatising to.

I have recommended to a few people in my writing group who attended a multi-media/multi-generic writing workshop, run by an academic by the name of Elisabeth Stephens, that they take a look at FOD to see what an artisitic/archival/entertaining/informative way multi-media writing can be used.

Hope I haven't bored you too much.

Cheers

Pete Libby

Reply:

From: Akifumi Kijima
Email: wasian19@hotmail.com
Sent: 8th June 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: injustices suffered by aboriginals

I am currently doing some research on the injustices suffered by aboriginals in the hands of the law. i was wondering if you could send me some actual cases in which aboriginals have been treated injustly. This is an issue which i find extremely important ant i wish to learn the true injustices suffered by the true owners of the country. i would also greatly appreciate it if you could send to me some statistics on aboriginal health and the lack of government support

thank you kindly, and a fast reply would be greatly appreciated.

yours sincerely Akifumi Kijima

Reply: 10th June 2003

From: Peta Libby
Email: libbymob@iinet.net.au
Sent: 7th June 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: FOD

Dear Simon,

Thankyou so much for sharing your family's and their associate's experiences of our 'soul-entering' country', out there beyond our coastal margins, in such an engaging and unique way. FOD is a different experience for every visitor I am sure, and for me a different experience each time I visit.

Because you have so trustingly and hospitably left your 'shed door' open, I have borrowed a couple of tools. Hopefully I will be able to do justice with them in a multigenerational story of aboriginal Australia I have been trying to develop over the last few years. Maybe some day I will be able to share the products of my labours with these tools with you and your audience.

I have been in and out of central-eastern Western Australia for the last 20 years of my life but had my 'first contact' with the outback and its warm and intriguing peoples when I was eight. I have lived remotely for the last ten years of my life and, upon returning to the city with my husband and children, have a clarity of perspective from which I am able to now write. I am constantly encouraged, as you must also be, by people's eagerness to know more about a place and a people all Australians should know more about. Unfortunately societal constraints, conservativity and fear of the unknown prevent everyday Australians learning more about their own vast country and people (I'm sure the fact that we're not all born millionaires with an unlimited capacity to travel also has a large bearing on this also).

I hope I will be able to do half-as-good-a-job as you at enlightening, intriguing and educating people both across Australia and the world.

Cheers

Peta Libby from Perth WA (Formerly of Leinster - WA, Tenant Creek - NT and Leonora -WA)

Reply: 7th June 2003 8:14 PM

From: Shane Murphy
Email: cassandra.murphy@bigpond.com
Sent: 14th May 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: benefits paid the aborigines

Hi Simon,

I have just stumbled onto your site whilst looking for information on the benefits paid to aborigines.

I was at Weipa on the 9 May 2003 doing a environmental health assessment on RAAF Base Scherger and during a drink at the end of the day with some work colleagues the conversation flowed onto the local aboriginal population.

I found myself surrounded by people with extremely racist points of view. Comments about land rights, their smell, free cars, children paid to go to school, how they only pay one cent a litre for fuel, were rife and a couple of people declared they hated aborigines. I was taken back by their sentiments and could feel myself getting a little hot under the collar.

What is annoying me presently was my silence during this 'discussion', apart a lame comment about the many Australians who receive social payments. I feel my silence has endorsed their points of view and by not opposing them I am collaborating with them to undermine the worth of the aborigine people. I like facts that can be supported and am reluctant to comment if I'm not sure I am right. Hence my search for the benefits paid the aborigines so I am armed with a few fact to support my emotions.

Thanks

Shane Murphy
RAAF Darwin
cassandra.murphy@bigpond.com

Reply: 15th May 2003 8:14 PM

From: Peter Pohlner
Email: sampeter@tpg.com.au
Sent: 14th May 2003 2:08 AM
Subject: Jilkata

My name is Peter Pohlner.I am a final year Law/Aboriginal Sudies student at Northern Territory University. I am trying to find references to 'Jilkata' 'Tjilkatja'. I saw some reference in relation to 'Red Ochre Men' and I think it may be the same thing. I am doing an assignment on Aboriginal self-governance with the central theme being "one law" and culture unique to central Australian Aboriginal groups, which might act as a unifying force in an attempt to self determine their future.There are currently enquiries into the possible negotiation of a "framework agreement" between the Northern Territory Government and the Combined Aboriginal Nations of Central Australia (CANCA). CANCA is a movement that emerged prior to the failed Northern Territory Statehood referendum in 1998; from a concern by remote central Australian groups of the failure by the CLP Government to address their needs.I have tried to find material in the university library but as yet without success and my enquiries at the Anthropogy Dept have similarly been unsuccessful. I wonder if you could possibly put me on the right track.

Reply: 14th May 2003 8:53 AM

From: cheffon thomas
Email: cheffonthomas74@hotmail.com
Sent: 10th May 2003 1:42 AM
Subject: how can i get spirital help

how can i get spirital help

Reply:

From: UQP Mailorders
Email: mailorders@bookshop.uq.edu.au
Sent: 6th May 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Power Knowledge and Aborigines

Hello Simon,

I apologise, I thought you were a contact person for La Trobe University Press. I have since found an overseas supplier and will contact them direct.

Thanks Vanessa

From: UQP Mailorders
Email: mailorders@bookshop.uq.edu.au
Sent: 6th May 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: Power Knowledge and Aborigines

Dear Simon,

Would you please supply us with the following information on behalf of one of our customers:

Title: Power Knowledge and Aborigines
Author: Attwood, Bain & Arnold, John
Isbn: 1 86324 013 6

RRP and AVAILABILITY
DISCOUNT OFFERED TO A BOOKSHOP TO RESELL
COST OF SENDING ONE COPY BY AIRMAIL - cheapest method
COST OF SENDING ONE COPY BY SEA MAIL
ETA by AIR and SEA
IS PREPAYMENT REQUIRED OR WILL YOU INVOICE
DO YOU HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN AGENT
DO YOU A(CC) reserved EPT MASTERCARD PAYMENT

Many thanks
Vanessa Salam
General Information
University of Qld Bookshop
St Lucia QLD 4067
Australia

Reply: 6th May 2003 10:45 AM

From: Saltner, Vernon Robert - SALVR001
Email: SALVR001@students.unisa.edu.au
Sent: 30th April 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: coward springs

Hi I thought the NHT/ AFFA might have sponsorships/funding for natural environment.

From: Saltner, Vernon Robert - SALVR001
Email: SALVR001@students.unisa.edu.au
Sent: 30th April 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: coward springs

Hello I am Vernon Saltner a university student and wish to apply for information on the "Sponsorship" of protecting and promoting coward springs?

Reply: Wednesday, 30 April 2003 2:27 PM

From: Shane Hersey
Email: Shane.Hersey@nt.gov.au
Sent: 29th April 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: Journey to Horseshoe Bend

Strehlow Research Centre, NT

Simon

Thanks for removing access to the individual Journey to Horseshoe Bend chapters. Your action is much appreciated. I'm sure the old Arrernte men will be equally grateful for your respect for their attitudes towards sensitive cultural material.

Sincerely Shane

Shane Hersey
Acting Research Director
STREHLOW RESEARCH CENTRE

PO Box 831
ALICE SPRINGS NT 0871
Ph: 08 8951 1111
Fax: 08 8951 1110
www.strehlow.com.au
shane.hersey@nt.gov.au

Reply: 29th April 2003 2:47 PM

Reply: 29th April 2003 9:51 PM

From: Shane Hersey
Email: Shane.Hersey@nt.gov.au
Sent: 28th April 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: Journey to Horseshoe Bend

Strehlow Research Centre, NT

Simon

Greetings from Alice Springs. I have followed the progress of your project from its inception and have always found it interesting, academically relevant and stylish. However, there is a problem with you having Journey to Horseshoe Bend on your web site in the format that it is, and it has nothing to do with copyright or the SRC Board. I'm sure you'll find it fascinating and you may consider recording it on your web site in some way because it relates directly to your hypertext approach to data and metadata.

Let me begin by saying that I have just completed the removal of the Journey to Horseshoe Bend material from the SRC web site. Over a month ago I received a telephone call from a man who has traditional involvement in the care of Aboriginal sacred sites at Horseshoe Bend. He has a complex relationship with the area through his wife's father. The reason he rang was to tell me that he had been approached by an Aboriginal man who is either a traditional owner or cultural guardian of the Horseshoe Bend area, particularly in relation to the 'fire' area that is mentioned in TGH Strehlow's novel. His concern was that information about the area was available in an inappropriate way and that certain Arrernte elders were offended. That is, unlike the paper novel, the hypertext version (published in html-based chapters) had been completely spidered and catalogued for search engines. The result was that when certain keywords were entered, the information about the sacred areas was immediately listed onscreen.

I was surprised yet intrigued by this development. This seems to have a parallel with the differences between the circulation of knowledge in traditional Aboriginal communities compared with the circulation of information in an Enlightenment-influenced Western culture even when both texts referred to are identical. In other words, it seems it's okay that the information is available, but only if it is accessible through the structure of a book. That way, the reader must have a commitment to find the information rather than perhaps come across it by chance. My solution was to remove all the chapters and replace them with an ebook of Journey to Horseshoe Bend in pdf format. http://www.strehlow.com.au That way individual sections cannot be spidered independently and it is acceptable to everyone.

You are welcome to use the pdf as a download at your site without charge. It isn't perfect, since it was originally part of a personal research project towards a PhD thesis, and was never meant for publication, but I have tidied it up as much as possible. Whether or not its availability will cause further ripples is another story.

Sincere regards
Shane

Shane Hersey
Acting Research Director
STREHLOW RESEARCH CENTRE
PO Box 831
ALICE SPRINGS NT 0871
Ph: 08 8951 1111
Fax: 08 8951 1110
www.strehlow.com.au
shane.hersey@nt.gov.au

Reply: 28th April 2003 10:52PM

From: Steve Bahn
Email: SteveBahn@web.de
Sent: 26th April 2003 12:32 AM
Subject: Pictures Aborigines

Hello,

I saw a picture on your site with aborigines children. My class and I want to create a site about Australia. My group and I are responsible for the Australian Natives, the Aborigines. We search the web after Pictures of Children of Aborogines and so I found your site. Now my question is, whether we can use this pic:

Man with 5 Aboriginal children

for our site. Is this possible. Please answer me fast.

Kind regards, Steve Bahn

UNICEF bittet um Spenden für die Kinder im Irak!
Hier online an UNICEF spenden: https://spenden.web.de/unicef/special/?mc=021101

Reply: 27th April 2003 8:15PM

Reply: 27th April 2003 12:20PM

From: Eric Scott
Email: eric@acwa.asn.au
Sent: 13th April 2003 8:23PM
Subject: seeking photographs for publication

thanks for that info

we publish developing practice and when we have an Aboriginal writer and/or article we sometimes have trouble finding suitable pictures unless the writer proivides them

This edition has a piece on the impact on current communities of violence to Aboriginal communites and individuals in the colonial era

it is by an Aboriginal health worker in NSW

The historial images on FOD would suit very well

see us at http://www.acwa.asn.au

and the journal at http://www.acwa.asn.au/acwa/publications/Journal/journal.html

can i phone you Monday?

Eric Scott
Association of Childrens Welfare Agencies

From: Eric Scott
Email: eric@acwa.asn.au
Sent: 11th April 2003 11:49AM
Subject: seeking photographs for publication

Simon

message: We are seeking photographs for publication and the ones at http://www.duckdigital.net/FOD/FOD0190.html could be useful. What is the chance of getting permission?
telephone: 02 9281 8822

Reply: 15th April 2003 9:10PM

From: Robert Ross
Email: bullion49@hotmail.com
Sent: 2nd April 2003 6:58PM
Subject: LASSETERIA

Dear Simon,

Thank you for yesterdays mail re the link to your site, I have ammended the link as requested and it appears O.K. from my end but please check if satisfactory and let me know, also thanks for the cross link. I am based in Adelaide and can be contacted on 0883816470.

I look forward to future communications.

Regards Bob Ross.

Reply: 2nd April 2003 9:10PM

From: Robert Ross
Email: bullion49@hotmail.com
Sent: 1st April 2003 3:36AM
Subject: LASSETERIA

Dear Simon,

I have included a link to your excellent web site in my web site, http://www.lasseteria.com and I would appreciate your comments on the appropriateness of the connection, in some ways the sites may compliment each other and you may be able to redirect many questions regarding Lasseter to LASSETERIA. Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Regards R.Ross.

Reply: 1st April 2003 9:10PM

From: Mundarra
Email: mundara@austarnet.com.au
Sent: 30 March 2003 11:19PM
Subject: LASSETERIA

The meaning of Mundarra in Queensland is shirt.
Mundara in NSW is Thunder.
Mundara in Vic is Big Storm

I check Mundara web sites every now and again. On this particular web site someone asked the question as to what the Aboriginal name Mundara meant. My husband is one of Australia's leading Aboriginal artists, so I am familiar with the various Aboriginal tribal meanings.

Regards Mundara

From: Joel Gluis
Email: jgluis@hotmail.com
Sent: 19th March 2003 7:19AM
Subject: tasmanian aboriginies

G'day,

I'm currently doing a bit of research on the events that took place in tasmania between the europeans and the aboriginies, if there's anyway you could help, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks Joel

p.s if you intend to reply could you please reply to jgluis@hotmail.com, thanks again.

Reply: 19th March 2003 9:33AM

From: Bill Skinner
Email: sup1cof@hotmail.com
Sent: 13th February 2003 2:38PM
Subject: POCKLEY

Simon,

Thanks for your interest. My background is not academic at all. I worked for 36 years in California in glass container manufacturing and coffee production, then retired to Costa Rica. Here, between photo taking jaunts around and about and a visit or two to the beach each month, I read read read. Still reading from your website and as it seems to be laid out in a manner to continue to have fresh material, I'm sure I'll be reading it for a long time.

Truly, I doubt that there's anything in my personal or work history that would contribute to your website, though I have read much of what's been posted, as you continue to field questions from so many places around the world.

I had thought that at some point in time, possibly I would arrange to board a tramp steamer (I gather they still exist) and float my way to the Pacific Rim before I get much older. I am 60. Barring that, in the future, at least, I'd like to fly to Manila/Hong Kong/Bangkok/Saigon (it's Saigon to me, always)...then Sydney I suppose, or wherever in Australia an itinerary would drop me. I think about 3 months would do it, but remain open ended. Except of course in the matter of finances. That would certainly influence length of stay.

Two years ago, here, while looking for a better apartment in the capitol (San Jose) I ran across an ad for a house sitting position in the mountains. Haven't regretted taking the responsibility but it does limit my range of travel for the time being. The young couple (math teachers) and I are at present mulling over if another year would work for us. They're in the Phillipine Islands and indicate that they'd like to sign on for another year. I suppose I'll know where I stand, in July, when the current contract expires.

I trust that your work on the website will continue to be a labor of love.

Bill

Reply:

From: Chad Wittkop
Email: sup1cof@hotmail.com
Sent: 21st February 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: hello

Hi Simon, thanks for the reply. I'll read your online description...

I asked about Brown, i.e. Brown University because they have some people doing hypertext ficton there but obviously one need not come from Brown in order to do such things. One of their faculty did www.sunshine69.com, which FOD reminded me of but I like your stuff better. I'm looking forward to future exploration of it. Cheers,

Chad

Reply:

From: Chad Wittkop
Email: wittk004@tc.umn.edu
Sent: 20th February 2003 8:51 PM
Subject: hello

hello fod simonp,

i stumbled on this by accident in a search engine under 'diary keeping'. i didn't get all the way through because i have to go to bed but i will look through again soon (i even marked my place). are you from brown? (i don't mean that pejoratively.) another question: where are you located and do you do this for doing its sake? thanks in advance for answers if you have time. 'night,

cw

Reply: 21st February 2003 8:24 AM

From: Bill Skinner
Email: wittk004@tc.umn.edu
Sent: 12th February 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: POCKLEY

Mr. Pockley,

Allow me to preface by saying that I'll forward your posting (with your permission I hope) to the lady in Australia who got me interested in the first place. You may hear from her.

Your father's journal arrested me. I was vaguely curuous to learn more abut the outback, so I read on and on. And although your comment as to the size of the site may be accurate, even with my 4 year old computer I was able to navigate quite quickly and easily from page to page. Having certain key words highlighted so's to maneuver to references or photos is just an added bonus, of course. As I'm sure you know, some websites, although they may have much to pique the interest, simply download so slowly due to inconsequential 'add ons', that many (myself included) move on. I know nothing about the expense involved with running a website, large or small. This one would seem worthy of your efforts though, if only for personal reasons.

So. Though I've spent a week browsing through the many 'stopoffs' your site has offered, I go back to saying....for me......it's the older journals. I read of the revisions, re-editing, etc, but that doesn't faze me in the least. The heart of a man's voyage is still there. And I felt that a part of him is still out there. And that you went to visit that part.

No particular photos caught my eye. One could wish for more clarity..understanding they're probably stills from the movie camera, or a vintage 1920 something camera at least. If I needed to choose, all the aboriginal faces got more than a 2d look. These faces make one want to stare deeper and deeper. I'm sure you understand what I mean.

Sorry, Simon...almost have written you a journal in the process! HooRoo, (learned from my australian mentor, of the past few weeks :)

bill skinner

Reply: 12th February 2003 11:49 PM

From: Bill Skinner
Email: sup1cof@hotmail.com
Sent: 12th February 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: POCKLEY

Sirs:

Felt compelled to express gratitude for the website and all documents therein. Especially Pockley's journal, then and now, two generations. Incredible the wealth of information about Australia's outback, including the preserved photos.

To whomever deserves credit for this great effort, I give my thanks. I am a north american who's the better for it.

bill skinner

Reply: 12th February 2003 2:15 PM

From: Dallas Dellinger
Email:
Sent: 23rd January 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: not mere contentment

hey i was looking for the source/ author of a quote when i came across a poem that you seemed to write (i couldn't find a home page for an explanation, but i assume).

anyhow, i didn't see a title, but the poem read 'magically, i find in grateful age/ not mere contentment, placid peace of mind; but new delight in beauties that engage/ my fancy, thoughts, and senses. They all find/ diurnal ecstacy: a bubbling joy.' (compliments)

it's kind of similar to the quote, which is attributed to some guy kugell, who i'm convinced doesn't actually exist: "it is not peace i want, not mere contentment, its boundless joy and ecstacy for me".

i'm not sure what exactly i'm asking, but maybe you're familiar with that line? thanks for your time and thoughts.

dallas

Reply: 23rd January 2003 10:27 PM

From: Gregory Piche
Email:
Sent: 21st January 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: Thank you....!

Thank You...!

I really enjoyed my visit to your wb~page...!

Gregory Piche'
United States Marine Corps ~ Sadly retired

Reply: 21st January 2003 9:51 AM

From: W. Czajkowski
Email: jchase45@juno.com
Sent: 14th January 2003 5:37 AM
Subject: FLIGHT OF DUCKS vs EPIC MOVIE, IS NOT??

Dear:

How to explain your reluctance to communicate with me regarding Aborigines as well as the lack of addition to the Datascape of the FLIGHT OF DUCKS of the Epic Movie Scenario? The Movie, which shall promote their culture and aspirations on a much large scale than they do it already on the Australian continent. Please do whatever possible to help them in those respects.

Sincerely - Wieslaw.

From: Kurt Zint
Email:
Sent: 25th December 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: website links

Dear Friends

We are running a site 'australiansand' offering 'Didgeridoos, Emu Eggs, Aboriginal Art, Boomerangs, Dreamtime stories' Our URL is http://www.yidaki.com.au and are looking to link to other reputable sites on a reciprocal basis. Would appreciate your reply if interested and your precise URL so that we can put you onto our own links page.

PS love your site even if we do not link. I am interested but started too late.

Kurt

Best regards
http://www.yidaki.com.au
Kurt Zint
118 Esplanade
Brighton 5045
South Australia
Tel / Fax 61-8-8377 3690

Reply: 21st January 2003 9:51 AM

From: W. Czajkowski
Email: jchase45@juno.com
Sent: 17th December 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: FLIGHT OF DUCKS vs EPIC MOVIE, IS NOT??

Hi, Dear Simon:

With due respect to your Father's collection combined with T.G.H. Strehlow's life-long dedication to the people of Aranda I must sadly to say that both are inadequately promoted around the world, for the Internet serves only snobs and persons accidentally getting infos at the Internet. So, even the paper presented at the HERSA98 conference in Auckland by V.Hart & S. Whatman re colonisers has been diluted in the sea of Internet's infos that it got lost completely. Therefore the EPIC MOVIE would prevent that loss if materialized, and you, Dear, may be a part of it. Please review the movie's SCENARIO and find, that it was written in 1998 for the benefit to Aborigines, whose aspirations are to become selfgoverned. But they must do something concrete in this direction.

Sincerely - Wieslaw.

Reply: 17th December 2002 9:51 AM

From: W. Czajkowski
Email: jchase45@juno.com
Sent: 16th December 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: FLIGHT OF DUCKS vs EPIC MOVIE, IS NOT??

Dear:

Do in your capacity whatever you can for materialization of the idea of the EPIC MOVIE for representatives of the Aborigines (ATSIC) do not know how to approach to it , probably due to economical and political constraints facing that movement (ATSIC). I would appreciate much if you could express these capacities or some elses in that respect.

With regards - Wieslaw Czajkowski of California, San Diego.

Reply: 17th December 2002 9:51 AM

From: W. Czajkowski
Email: jchase45@juno.com
Sent: 15th December 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: FLIGHT OF DUCKS vs EPIC MOVIE, IS NOT??

Hi, Dear:

Why you do not want to react on this letter as below? It opens a great opportunity to do something good for the natives of Australia. Please respond shortly.

Sincerely - W. Czajkowski.

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:05:15 -0700 john chase

SYMPATHETIC TO THE PLIGHT OF ABORIGINES

When Russians set their foot in Alaska in 1741, twenty seven years later they attacked Poland. And so in 1772 mutilation of Poland began by Russia and her allies. Since then Polish freedom fighters under the slogan "For Yours And Our Liberty" fought for their cause on many strange soils, alike the Irish people ever since 1798.

In 1776 many Poles had joined American Revolutionary Army and in 1783 all together drove Britons from the Washington's land. Five years later Britons settled in Aboriginal Australia and occupation of that continent began.

In 1778-9 France and Spain declared wars on Britain, and after the French Revolution in 1789 the wars intensified.

In 1939 Russia with Germany again mutilated Poland, and as a good gesture in 1945 Britain rescued 1,000 Polish orphans fleeing from Russia and settled them in New Zealand and Australia.

Encouraged by this good deed in 1947 the Britons commenced transporting to Australia 10,000 of their own and Irish orphans mingling them with thousands of children taken by force from Aboriginal families creating the so called "Lost Generation" problem.

In 1994 appeared in Australia a Polish kid (lost in Germany during WWII) and met some of those children of the first 1945 settlement. Four years later he met children of the "Lost Generation" and as a tribute dedicated to them an Epic Movie's Scenario about which is written in October's issue of the POLISH WEEKLY (#40) with circulation in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Canberra, Brisbane, Perth and Hobart, faithful to the old slogan "For Yours And Our Liberty"

Content of the WEEKLY's article in both languages is presented below with expectation that the Australian Polish Community 130,000 in number will treat it heartily, so much, as it is needed to the Aborigines of Oz, 350,000 strong.

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NOWA IMPREZA PANA CZAJKOWSKIEGO

Cztery lata temu Czynny Dyrektor Stowarzyszenia Modrzejewskich, Wieslaw Czajkowski, P.O.Box 193, San Diego, CA 92038, USA, przez cztery miesiace wojazowal z malzonka po Australii i pozostawil slad w naszym TYGODNIKU POLSKIM oraz w KURIERZE ZACHODNIM odpowiednio: 04.02.95 - "Falszywy patriotyzm" oraz Czerwiec 1995 - "Z milosci do Modrzejewskiej i polskich tradycji". A ze zakochal sie takze w Aboryginach, to na nastepna ture przygotowal SCENARIUSZ MONUMENTALNEGO FILMU o ich historii i kulturze.

Zaczynajac od Cairns w Queensland i tamtejszej prasy (Listopad 1998) przez piec miesiecy przekonywal conajmniej piecdziesieciu liderow rdzennych Ozeans o potrzebie wykonania wieloseryjnego filmu aby przez uswiadomienie ludzkosci poparla ich w dazeniach do suwerennosci chocby tylko na jednym terytorium Oz. Film ma sie skladac z trzynastu scen pod nastepujacymi tytulami: RAJ OZEANOW (PARADISE OF OZEANS); SREDNIOWIECZE (DARK AGES); WIEK ODKRYC (AGE OF DISCOVERIES); PODBICIE OZ (SUBJUGATION OF OZ); TWORCZOSC I POJEDNANIE (CREATIVENESS AND RECONCILIATION).

Idea filmu przypadla liderom do gustu, natomiast opinie Australijczykow, do ktorych nalezy rowniez zaliczyc Polonie, ogolnie wypadly niepomyslnie, pisze do nas Dyrektor Czajkowski nie chcac sie nad tym zjawiskiem zastanawiac. Dodaje jedynie, ze sprawa filmu jest rozstrzygana na najwyzszym szczeblu aboryginskiej hierarchii i ze prawdopodobnie rok nastepny zajmie mu dokonczenie SCENARIUSZA z udzialem OZEANOW.

Chetnych poznania szczegolow SCENARIUSZA Redakcja TYGODNIKA odsyla pod podany adres pocztowy, lub internetowy tpioro@netscape.net, lub

Zdjecie, jakie w naszej Redakcji Dyrektor pozostawil ukazuje go z Przewodniczacym ATSIC'u Gatjil Djerrkura podczas lutowej konferencji w Adelaide.

Redakcja.

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A NEW ACTIVITY OF MR. CZAJKOWSKI.

Four years ago Acting Director of the Modjeskis' Society, Mr. W. Czajkowski, P.O.Box 193, San Diego, CA 92038, USA, for four months was riding with his spouse across Australia. In effect in our POLISH WEEKLY (POLSKI TYGODNIK) of February 4, 1995, as well as in the monthly WESTERN COURIER (KURIER ZACHODNI) of June 1995 appeared two articles entitled "False Patriotism" and "With Love to Madame Modjeska and Polish Traditions". Because he also fell in love with Aborigines. Because he also fell in love with Aborigines, for the next trip to Australia he prepared an EPIC MOVIE's Scenario pertaining their history and culture.

He started in Cairns, Queensland and in the local newspaper THE CAIRNS POST (November 12th issue). During five months of voyages he tried to convince at least fifty leaders of Aborigines about necessity of producing a three parts serial movie which should signal the entire world that they have an ambition to become independent on a separate territory of Oz. The movie would contain thirteen scenes within the following chapters: PARADISE OF OZEANS, DARK AGES, AGE OF DISCOVERIES, SUBJUGATION OF OZ and CREATIVENESS AND RECONCILIATION.

The movie's concept has been applauded by said leaders with the exception of some Australians, among them members of the Polish communities, wrote to our WEEKLY Mr. Czajkowski without any hint why he is not concerned about the latters. He added only that the case of movie production is negotiated with highest authorities and probably next year he will work together with Aborigines on the final edition of the Scenario.

Whoever wishes to know details of the Scenario, we recommend to contact the Society directly using also its e-mail addresses tpioro@netscape.net and/or t_pioro@yahoo.com. By this occasion we are asking our readers not to ignore contacts with our WEEKLY.

The photo, which the Director left in our Office, presents him with the Chairman of the ATSIC (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commisssion) Mr. Gatjil Djerrkura made in February in Adelaide.

The Editorship.

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Great deeds make ones visible. Check the given URL below and do something for the EPIC MOVIE which should prevent disappearance of your distinctive culture by becoming a WORLD HERITAGE forever. Truly - Author of the MOVIE'S Scenario.

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CRAZY HORSE MEMORIAL (http://www.crazyhorse.org)

Sioux Chief Crazy Horse when asked 'where are your lands now' pointed and said: "My lands are where my dead lie buried"

Crazy Horse Memorial is a nonprofit cultural and educational humanitarian project dedicated to the Native Americans of North America.

The foundation has three major goals: the mountain carving, the Indian Museum of North America, and the University and Medical Training Center for the North American indian.

CRAZY HORSE

Crazy Horse was born on Rapid Creek in 1843. He was killed when he was only 34 years of age, September 6, 1877. He was stabbed in the back by an American soldier at Fort Robinson, Nebraska, while he was under U.S. Army protection. During his life he was a great leader of his people.

He did not have an equal as a warrior or a chief. He gave submissive allegiance to no man, white or Indian, and claimed his inalienable rights as an Indian to wander at will over the hunting grounds of his people. He never registered at any agency; never touched the pen; never signed a treaty. He wanted only peace and a way of living for his people without having to live on the white man's reservations.

Crazy Horse defended his people and their way of life in the only manner he knew, but only after he saw the treaty of 1868 broken. This treaty, signed by the President of the United States said, "Paha Sapa, the Black Hills, will forever and ever be the sacred land of the Indians." He took to the warpath only after he saw his friend Conquering Bear killed; only after he saw the failure of the government agents to bring required treaty guarantees such as meat, clothing, tents and necessities for existence. In battle the Sioux war leader would rally his warriors with the cry, "It is a good day to fight;--it is a good day to die."

In 1877 Crazy Horse's wife, staying at Fort Robinson, was dying of tuberculosis. His only child a daughter, had recently died of this same disease. Under a guarantee of safe conduct both into and out of the Fort, Crazy Horse agreed to confer with the Commanding Officers. History has proven since that the intention never was to let Crazy Horse go free, but rather to ship him to the Dry Tortugas in Florida. The chief had no notion what was in store for him until he entered the guardhouse and saw the bars on the windows. Right then he was face to face with the fate the white man had intended for him. He drew a knife (the fact that he had not been disarmed is good proof that he never surrendered) and attempted to get to his Indian friends outside the stockade. Little Big Man, friend and warrior companion of Crazy Horse, carrying out his orders as an Indian policeman, seized Crazy Horse's arms. In struggling to free himself, Crazy Horse slashed Little Big Man's wrist. At this point, an infantry man of the guard made a successful lunge with a bayonet and Crazy Horse fell, mortally wounded.

In the minds of the Indians today, the life and death of Crazy Horse parallels the tragic history of the red man since the white man invaded their homes and lands. One of many great and patriotic Indian heroes, Crazy Horse's tenacity of purpose, his modest life, his unfailing courage, his tragic death set him apart and above the others.

May 29, 1949 Korczak Ziolkowski, Sc.

To be carved on the mountain in letters three feet high:

WHEN THE COURSE OF HISTORY HAS BEEN TOLD LET THESE TRUTHS HERE CARVED BE KNOWN: CONSCIENCE DICTATES CIVILIZATIONS LIVE AND DUTY OURS TO PLACE BEFORE THE WORLD, A CHRONICLE WHICH WILL LONG ENDURE. FOR LIKE ALL THINGS UNDER US AND BEYOND INEVITABLY WE MUST PASS INTO OBLIVION. THIS LAND OF REFUGE TO THE STRANGER WAS OURS FOR COUNTLESS EONS BEFORE: CIVILIZATIONS MAJESTIC AND MIGHTY. OUR GIFTS WERE MANY WHICH WE SHARED AND GRATITUDE FOR THEM WAS KNOWN. BUT LATER, GIVEN MY OPPRESSED ONES WERE MURDER, RAPE AND SANGUINE WAR. LOOKING EAST FROM WHENCE INVADERS CAME, GREEDY USURPERS OF OUR HERITAGE. FOR US THE PAST IS IN OUR HEARTS, THE FUTURE NEVER TO BE FULFILLED. TO YOU I GIVE THIS GRANITE EPIC FOR YOUR DESCENDANTS TO ALWAYS KNOW-- "MY LANDS ARE WHERE MY DEAD LIE BURIED."

Korczak Ziolkowski, Sculptor Crazy Horse Memorial, Black Hills, S.D.

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A SCENARIO TO A MONUMENTAL MOVIE ABOUT HISTORY AND CULTURE OF NATIVE AUSTRALIANS (OZEANS)

PARADISE OF OZEANS

SCENE I

In it is seen a violetish, wave-like plane, concentrically pulsating and superimposed by the word SPIRIT in a similar motion. On such a plane the word SPIRIT shrinks to a bluish spot growing into discernable and rotating globe exposing the continent of Oz.

SCENE II

The continent Oz is enlarged to a size of the movie screen showing details of the prehistoric environment and at the end of this Scene concentrating on various aspects of Ozean's Life.

DARK AGES

SCENE III

After Scene II, the globe and the Oz are shown again. Above and below the globe appear two STARS OF DAVID which squeeze it into a flat disk. On the disk are seen contours of the Euro-African continent and other lands. Beneath the disk dominates darkness.

SCENE IV

Above the disk from east to west moves the Sun, Moon and Stars. At Judea, a part of the Euro-African continent, a cross is rising.

SCENE V

On the other land masses of the Euro-African continent spread cathedral like structures wherefrom with national flags marched armored men with crosses on their banners commencing battles with the neighbors tainting red the surrounding land with blood.

AGE OF DISCOVERIES

SCENE VI

Portugese Henry the Navigator (1394-1460), Italian Christopher Columbus (1446-1506) and Polish Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543) are seen inflating the flat disk-shape globe and setting it into motion around the Sun.

SCENE VII

A close up of the rotating globe with ships departing from the Euro-African continent onto the vastness of oceans. On the grounds of visited lands are being displayed the crosses. From under the crosses flows blood into the oceans.

SUBJUGATION OF OZ

SCENE VIII

Close up of the North American continent (1776). There are seen British ships sailing hurly across the Atlantic Ocean towards England. From there they are seen traversing the oceans on their way to the PARADISE OF OZ.

SCENE IX

Close up of the Oz continent with the soil underneath the British reddened, too. The stubborn natives are seen chained and shipped to England in cages for a public display.

SCENE X

Here is seen en route a multitude of ships from England to Oz with chained Britons on board send there to perform a hard labor because Ozeans refused to work and chose the out-back country instead of enslavement. However they leave behind their children who are subjected to a civilizing education. Many of them wind up in dungeons or in graves.

CREATIVENESS AND RECONCILIATION

SCENE XI

The Oz's continent is exposed again with various constructive works going on. Human masses are flowing in from all over the world. This time among cathedral like structures are seen temples of strange religions and native Ozeans from a distance observing these developments. Some already reeducated enter institutions of the new comers and try to impose on them their traditions. In their plight for the human conscience they do it under the protection of the United Nations gaining back their "Stolen Generations" (under their own banner and with their sovereignty).

SCENE XII

The Globe is seen rotating with the Oz in front view. The globe shrinks to a small bluish spot as in Scene I. Out of this spot's surrounding space emanates a flash, and out of this flash rises a spacecraft in flight towards a neighboring star. The craft slowly disappears and blends with the Spirit as in Scene I. Thus the SPIRIT comes again to the Ozeans regained by the Cosmos as it always has existed in their Dreams.

SCENE XIII

In this scene are seen symbols of all religions and national cultures gathered under the Life Giving Sun, the One among zillions of Suns emanating Light - the Spirit of the entire Cosmos. Those zillions of Lights are seen blending together and the Humanity also becoming alike the Light.

CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS

SCENE XIV

In this scene we see clashes among civilizations, and those, who survive them by means as presented in the Scene XII. Here we see survivors commencing a new evolutionary life in conformity with the all encompassing SPIRIT of LOVE. Thus it comes to a triumph of Oz's Aborigines assuming that they were on that historical flight (Scene XII). We see them in a great joy of regaining freedom being lost on the planet Earth.

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An excerpt from the booklet "NATURE'S GOD", a supplement to the book ADOLF HITLER - FOUNDER OF ISRAEL (available at the http://www.hollyland.com), THE LIGHT:

THE LIGHT

Physical properties of the light seemingly are known, but exactly no one knows what the LIGHT is.

The "Mother of Nature" supplies the entire Universe with it immensely, of course, including STARS, which emanate THE LIGHT, no less intensely.

Although the Stars emanate the LIGHT, we do not feel IT due to enormous expanses of COSMOS. We don't feel it until STARS' microwave background radiation (of our Big Bang Sphere in this instance) exceeds the "Paradise's" level (see 36 Celsius, below).

No one can argue that the LIGHT is not a part of Electro-Magnetic Energy created within STARS, and even in bulbs, yes - by man-made bulbs. As the LIGHT of Stars can sustain LIFE, so the LIGHT of bulbs can sustain too. Plants are receptors of LIGHT. Without plants no creature can survive.

And as the LIGHT creates LIFE, so the ENERGY creates MATTER. ENERGY and LIGHT are the same, and since the local BIG BANG cataclysmically emerges, ENERGY/LIGHT uniformly dissipates across the COSMOS, and at points of ITS merger, does emerge the MATTER - from a single atom to particles of zillions of atoms, intersected/bounded by ENERGY/LIGHT, and finally coalesced into an AGGREGATE with gravitational forces in the end effect causing the BANG.

As the process continues, the void of COSMOS is once gradually filled up with ENERGY, and once with collapsing MATTER, always in constant move, whether on the sub-atomic level with resonances accompanying it, or with LIFE processes ended by ESCAPISM FROM THE CONFINEMENT OF MATTER, i.e. THE ESCAPISM OF THE SOUL into THE BLISS OF THE LIGHT/ENERGY.

In the simplest way let us say that the uniform dissipation of STARS' ENERGY across the COSMOS constantly rise the cosmic microwave background radiation (now measured by approx. 3 degrees of Kelvin) to a level between 273 and 309 degrees. This creates clumps of matter immersed within 36 degrees of Celsius as a condition for a "Paradise" across many parts of Cosmos. But sooner or later from that state of equilibrium those "clumps" by gravitational pull (intensity of LIGHT within a MATTER) fell into a "Black Hole" from which the accumulated ENERGY frees ITSELF by a new BIG BANG explosion filling again said part of the COSMOS with the LIGHT/ENERGY.

Most recent discovery of "Black Holes" (where even LIGHT cannot escape from) in many Galaxies, including the Milky Way, confirms the scenario known here under the term ESCAPISM OF THE LIGHT/SOUL FROM THE CONFINEMENT OF MATTER. In earthly conditions it is the LIGHT/SOUL accumulated within cells of living organisms.

A sum of ENERGY within the five main ingredients of MATTER (Hydrogen, Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen and Phosphorous) and their interrelation with interference of LIGHT, carrying zillions of messages, is the LIFE and the SOUL of the COSMOS.

It is a little mind boggling scenario, but indeed very simple. If you have more brilliant idea how the NATURE'S GOD works, please share it with others and, naturally, with the Publisher of this booklet first for the Thomas Jefferson cautioned that "Ignorance is preferable to error; and that he is less remote from the truth WHO BELIEVES NOTHING than who believes what is wrong."

So it might be the same with this Publisher's theories/hypothesis if one accepts that the LIGHT has creative properties, as well as destructive ones - creates matter and annihilates it (read "Enormous Plume of Antimatter Alters View of the Milky Way"). The BLISS IS NOTHING BUT LIGHT, the God of the Jefferson's intuitional Nature of the Universe.

WARAMBOOLS

I am DOO WARAMBOOL, for I came from a PLACE in the MILKY WAY and when I speak, although not elected, I do it on behalf of my people for my voice is a reflection of the MOTHER NATURE, which profoundly nourished my ancestors throughout 40,000 years long settlement in HER PARADISE. Let put it straight: Each, similar to me WARMBOOLS, although not exceeding 2% of Australia's population, speak for SELF, and by the same token speaks for all Aborigines having a mandate given by the NATURE. But whoever is responding to us, is doing so in a manner of superiority disrespecting the NATURE, always trying to impose upon us peculiar ideas, a product of their imagination. But being SELF we do not need their imagination.

Our ancestors could have erred in understanding the NATURE's WORLD but to lesser degree than those who subdued us; who with their lunatic BIBLE explained to us, that living in a paradise needs no knowledge because when you attain it you will lose the paradise. And it is true, for when Britons came to our land, we lost it. They brought diseases, physical and mental, decimated our people and did other horrible things. And moreover, they brought thousands upon thousands of strangers from other lands and likewise forced on them their will, feeding them with false promises of erecting their own paradise, a Kingdom of their God.

And they still instill in the rest of 98% Australians an anxiety towards that Kingdom, which is to end their miseries although due to their lunacies they inflicted them upon themselves. And they promised again that the paradise will materialize if in November's election (1999) will be chosen a proper leader. In their view he should be chosen by Parliament, but also they say, by the people directly, for only then Australia may become a Republic afar from British Monarchy.

But my instinct shaped by the NATURE whispers, that whoever would be that chosen one, he cannot recover the PARADISE as it was before nor guarantee a better one, for he will have no power of NATURE.

Yes, a certain category of humans with twentieth century technologies have the power already. But they are outnumbered much more than we are, the Aborigines. They only have an ability to voice the NATURE although their conscience is not yet fully developed by the process of evolution. And because it is not at par with technologies it amazes me: For how could it be possible that they with the technological progress are so far backwards with conscience? There must be a hidden reason behind this phenomenon. And I guess what it is: That MILKY WAY's a PLACE is too far to them. It might be also something else. Their conscientious flaws are confirmed by two World Wars and still waged one on the Balkan Peninsula. What white people did to my ancestors is a fraction of what they did and do to themselves.

Therefore I do not believe in their promises of better Kingdoms, Republics etc. But despite of circumstances I do insist that my people take part in November elections for only then the rest of Australia may hear the voice of our MOTHER NATURE. My people should know, that the others were also BORN FREE, but are not prepared yet to understand evolutionary ways of NATURE. In the past they only were able to distort them!

With deep LOVE to all - DOO.

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Doo, your message is worthy of a response! Mr. Mueller - 06:57am May 7, 1999

Truth is Our Birthright !

I have taken the time to carefully read what you had to say and was impressed by what I saw when you permitted me to look into the soul of an Australian aborigine. You display a soul connection to the universe which is unheard of in the western world and your understanding ranks above that of many. You arrived at an interesting conclusion when you speak of a discrepancy of conscience evolution versus intellect among those who became the conquerors of your people. Their soul evolution lacks far behind that of their intellect, and therefore western white man society is like a child playing with an atomic bomb. Wherever they tread, there is destruction. I feel we must step forward now and by example show the world that there is soul evolution equal to the evolution of our intellect, and then we will be no longer a threat to your people nor to anyone for that matter. - Mr. Mueller.

Reply: 15th December 2002 9:22 PM